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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 2:53 PM

Re: a more empirical thread

I do. That's why I provided examples of things that are deterministic but not usefully predictable.

OK. In that case we are pretty much in agreement. I have said that evolution selects for behavior that is deterministic but not [more]

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 12:10 PM

Re: a more empirical thread

This is ridiculous. There is no drawback to behavior that is in principle predictable.

You should try empiricism. There is a large body of scientific evidence that predictable behavior is deleterious. Consider the lowly [more]

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 11:48 AM

Re: a more empirical thread

a newborn baby is genetically programmed to learn to be conscious.

So you don't believe a baby at birth is conscious?

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 11:42 AM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

Is a conscious mind that is thinking 'I like chocolate' in a different state than a conscious mind that is thinking 'The cable modem isn't working'? Is Bob's conscious mind in a different state than Jane's?

Yes and yes. Also a [more]

Tue Feb 9

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 4:20 PM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

Right. So don't say that the conscious mind determining the choice is free will for you. It's that the conscious mind determines the choice and the choice is simultaneously not determined.

Lets simplify this to make it easier for you. [more]

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 9:44 AM

Re: a more empirical thread

The capacity did, but most of what makes us human is learned.

You seem to be confusing culture with consciousness and learning with embryonic development. Most would consider a newborn baby to be genetically programmed to be [more]

Mon Feb 8

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 9:44 AM

Re: a more empirical thread

The notional separation of mind from body is simply wrong... and it remains wrong in its extension here.

I certainly haven't made that "extension".

I think Sci Am did us a bit of a disservice that time. [more]

Sun Feb 7

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 2:07 PM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

Don't lie about your own position. The outcome is most definitely determined by the conscious mind in 1. You don't think it counts as free will.

That is because you added the clause "...could not have chosen otherwise..." [more]

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 1:54 PM

Re: a more empirical thread

Where is the demarcation evident in living species today? Which ones do you consider non-conscious, and which ones minimally conscious? Just curious.

I have no idea, no one does. That I think is the biggest challenge to physicalism [more]

Sat Feb 6

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 5:44 PM

Re: a more empirical thread

The question is whether self-awareness (consciousness) is the only measure we have

Well that really isn't the question. Even Wikipedia notes that consciousness and self-awareness are not the same thing. [more]

Fri Feb 5

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btresist posted to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 9:40 AM

a more empirical thread

I am starting a new thread to get away from the philosophical arguments about free will, which I find interesting but ultimately unproductive in achieving any biological model.

In post 25784, bjchip makes this statement about the difference [more]

Wed Feb 3

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 3:04 PM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

Different behavior from a different status of self awareness will always involve physical differences, so there isn't any need to invoke any causation other than physical.

I'm not suggesting otherwise. I just have a more flexible [more]

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 2:06 PM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

It just says a difference results in a differing output. Big deal. Trivial.

Pretty odd statement. A common experimental strategy in science is to have a control group and an experimental group that differ in some manner. One then [more]

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 12:25 PM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

It's nonsensical. Trivially true. And had no implications beyond that.

Why is it nonsensical and trivial to know the behavioral consequences of being self-aware? How can that not have implications?

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 9:30 AM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

The part where the two mechanical brains are identical but different in terms of self-awareness is a side issue.

Not sure why. There are two mechanical brains that are physically identical in every way except that one has a [more]

Tue Feb 2

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 11:50 AM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

This is a necessary condition and you cannot create the "identical" condition with the brains in the same body at the same time. Can't do it.

It was a thought experiment. Doesn't matter whether the experiment is possible or [more]

Mon Feb 1

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 10:35 PM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

In the contradictory mix that is your version of free will, it is the outcomes that are determined by the conscious mind and it is also the outcomes that are undetermined.

Nope, in my version the outcome is determined by the conscious [more]

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 5:46 PM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

Why is it that you so often refuse to answer my questions whereas I answer yours?

Sorry, I thought it was rhetorical. You have a tendency to answer your own question in the course of asking it. My answer is the equation is [more]

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 8:55 AM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

It's not a scientific question.

And therein lies the difference. You treat "free will" as a formalism and only consider the philosophical context. I am looking at free will as a biological property, trying to provide an [more]

Sun Jan 31

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btresist replied to the Creation vs. Evolution board. 10:24 PM

Re: Poll: Free will experiment

And that's the contradiction. You really don't see it? I don't think benjd25 could have explained it any better, and yet you reiterate it above as if it's not.

I don’t see the contradiction and frankly I don’t believe most of the [more]

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