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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Atheist Fools board. 2 hours ago

Re: Elizabeth takes no prisoners

Just like a dirtbag, however, when you don't like the message, you don't argue against the evidence or the argument, you attack the messenger.


I don't disagree with her message that much. I like her being hard on the banking and [more]

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Atheist Fools board. 2 hours ago

Re: Elizabeth takes no prisoners

I don't think so, but you're still missing the point. Even if I had, it wouldn't have been a lie to repeat a family story I believed (at the time) to be true.

Oh it would be. Such actions require that your official claim with a group [more]

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Atheist Fools board. 2 hours ago

Re: Elizabeth takes no prisoners

My response to the "Trail of Tears" thing is "so?". I don't buy the "sins of the father" falling onto descendants. Warren didn't do the Trail of Tears herself, so that's all that matters. Produce a picture of her at a [more]

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Atheist Fools board. 3 hours ago

Re: Elizabeth takes no prisoners

But you missed the point, as usual. It's that repeating a family story, even one that upon closer inspection turns out to be iffy or untrue, isn't the same thing as lying.

Did you ever convey your believed lineage to an employer who [more]

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Atheist Fools board. 3 hours ago

Re: Elizabeth takes no prisoners

On closer inspection of the genealogical record, it turns out that the "Cherokee" in my family tree are both greatx3 (not greatx2) and probably not full-blooded Cherokee at that.

That's a lot better than Warren. On closer [more]

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Atheist Fools board. 3 hours ago

Re: Elizabeth takes no prisoners

Lizzy had a boring career before she started willfully lying, and her employers used willful ignorance when she started getting teaching positions where her Native American claims were celebrated.

It's a stubborn point that would be [more]

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Atheist Fools board. 9:49 PM

Re: Elizabeth takes no prisoners

"Mid 20th century Hollywood depictions don't count."

Well True Grit actually would disprove my theory.

One man's tired meme is another man's perfect representation of Warren's dishonesty.

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Atheist Fools board. 6:45 PM

Re: Elizabeth takes no prisoners

Native Americans seldom took prisoners. They took scalps.

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Political Asylum board. 6:40 PM

Re: Torture is...

You have no knowledge of the situation--period.
This is incorrect. Let's see if you can figure out why.

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Political Asylum board. 2:55 PM

Re: Man eating snack killed by cops.

It's almost as if you are fooling around with something that could be mistaken for a weapon, and encounter the police, you risk getting shot. Regardless of the color of your skin.

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Political Asylum board. 11:55 AM

Re: 911 call "Man With Gun"

Gilbert Collar, a white, unarmed 18-year-old under the influence of drugs was shot and killed Oct. 6, 2012, by Officer Trevis Austin, who is black, in Mobile, Alabama. Despite public pressure for an indictment, a Mobile County grand jury refused to [more]

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Political Asylum board. 5:15 PM

Re: Cheney Discredited

It's actually relatively easy for interrogators to get prisoners to tell them the truth.

Tell us more.

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Political Asylum board. 2:42 PM

Re: 3,000 US Soldiers US$6+Billion in Iraq now

Still suggesting that Obama is powerless to put troops in Iraq?

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Political Asylum board. 11:27 AM

Re: Senate report on CIA torture

I mentioned the racial thing, in response to your saying you son't get worked up about torture. That was a small part of that post. You think that was driving something you should go back and reread my post. All the rest of this was responding to [more]

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Political Asylum board. 3:58 AM

Re: Senate report on CIA torture

I don't think I ever accused you of racism, but I am definitely in the camp that says you are an apologist.

Well if someone is referred to as an apologist for racists, I don't think puts them anywhere near the "not racist" [more]

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SaintPatrick1 posted to the Political Asylum board. 1:29 AM

3,000 US Soldiers US$6+Billion in Iraq now

Numbers don't seem to go down, just up.

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Political Asylum board. 12:50 AM

Re: Bush's Rule of Law

Handing over prisoners to countries where we know they'll be tortured is very different from ordering U.S. agents to torture prisoners.

It's a different program of torture...but it is still a program of torture.

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Political Asylum board. 11:08 PM

Re: Bush's Rule of Law

How's that "fine tuning?" Seems a fairly obvious distinction to me.

A distinction without a difference in intent, participation and result to parties involved.


>The outrage over this report is worth [more]

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SaintPatrick1 replied to the Political Asylum board. 9:20 PM

Re: Bush's Rule of Law

This is also a reprehensible practice -- outsourcing torture. But it's not quite as bad as engaging in it directly. And one happens to be a crime. The other, dunno.

"...not quite as bad as..." well there is some morality [more]

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