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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 12:56 PM

Re: "...I tried to kill myself..."

To me the light that illuminates is data. DNA is composed of four pieces (or "letters"). This can be shown with data so it is "truth".

But your truth is squishy too:

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Fri Aug 15

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 12:16 PM

Re: "...I tried to kill myself..."

To me truth is something factual. Not sure how that can be used for evil (though never underestimate the human capacity to use almost anything for "evil"!). Which is why I suggested an example might help. Everything I can think of the [more]

Wed Aug 6

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 10:38 AM

Re: "...I tried to kill myself..."

That's what happens when I get wordy. I confuse people. But when I avoid run-on sentences, I still don't make sense.

Must be me. I'll work on it....

Tue Aug 5

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 3:06 PM

Re: "...I tried to kill myself..."

Anything that can be destroyed by truth, should be

That in itself is truth. But people do many things in the name of truth. Horrible things.

So truth itself must not be the best metric with which we justify [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 7:47 AM

Re: "...I tried to kill myself..."

The presence or absence of Love
will always clarify a truth.

Sat Jul 26

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 6:14 PM

Re: "...I tried to kill myself..."

Those theists reading this, and especially the parents, were you ever concerned about such unintended consequences? Did it ever occur to you as a possibility? Looking back over the child-rearing years were any bullets dodged?

No... [more]

Mon Jul 21

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 7:47 AM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

It was a wonderful wedding. Just the right number of people showed up, including the officious lady from the other side of the family who very successfully took over the crowd control duties after the ceremony.

Funny how change brings more [more]

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1Apocalypse posted to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 7:41 AM

Faith and Reason

Found this interesting...

http://m.bbc.com/news/magazine-28341562

Sun Jul 6

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 9:32 AM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

Thanks for pushing, and trying to 'get it'. It helps.

My daughter is getting married in just a few hours, and this thread helped me distill a blessing for them. Here's what I hope to say, should I be able to make it through [more]

Thu Jul 3

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 1:34 PM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

Yeah, you can explain blue. Love on the other hand...

All you need is blue
Don't throw your blue away
You've lost that bluin' feelin'
What the world needs now is blue
How sweet it is to be blued by you
Blue will keep us [more]

Fri Jun 27

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:56 PM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

From what I understand, if people find out that they're 'loved' with some intentional propose... for cause (money, sex, status) that love is likely to be rejected.

No falling in love, but deliberate effort.

At least, that's [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:49 PM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

You can measure the wavelength of blue over and over and over again, and it will always be blue.

love, not so much.

Thu Jun 19

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 10:00 PM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

You've often helped me out of my narrow spot. Thanks.

According to your faith, they are not. Many are willfully sinful and many are just plain evil.

Um, no. My faith tells me that they are all not just the girl in the fourth [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 9:53 PM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

Honestly, I'm not entirely sure. We sing about it, write poetry about it, and generally recognize it as having powerful, positive effects. It exists beyond the boundaries of geography, time, even death. Deprive human infants of it and they die. We [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 9:35 PM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

If I want to know the propositional truth of something, that doesn't mean I lose all love from my life.

I was unclear. Let's say that you Love me. And I don't believe you.

So I keep looking for independent lines of [more]

Sat May 31

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 9:22 AM

Re: Is all truth propositional?


When it comes to the idea of love, there is no gap in knowledge that would be filled in by love being something more than an emotion / feeling existing in brains. Love being something that exists only in brains / minds doesn't lead to any
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Fri May 30

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 12:55 PM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

I'm in love with the biochemical processes in my brain then.

Maybe even yours.

Awkward.

Or not, as I've learned.

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 12:17 PM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

.do you think naturalism / atheism invalidates half of who we are?

Hmmm... as presented, that understanding seems to suggest that I think atheists and adherents of naturalism are self-restricted hemi-invalids.

That's more [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:06 AM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

One cannot dissect beauty and many other things, either. But these are not independent, existing things. I beat the whole math is reality to death on c v e awhile back. Math has great descriptive properties, but has no value or basis in reality [more]

Thu May 29

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 7:58 PM

Re: Is all truth propositional?

Can you please elaborate?

I can elaborate.

When you wrote They are therefore not independent lines of evidence and are highly subject to interpretation. They are also unverifiable. my thoughts hadn't left the idea [more]

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