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Fri Feb 13

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:42 AM

Re: Try to convert AIs?


You didn't mean it, yet you repeat it again.


I see what you've done there. Touche'. I've made the mistake of the rookie that I am.

When you asked:

How does wanting to understand the mechanics of love, it's [more]

Tue Feb 10

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 12:36 PM

Re: Try to convert AIs?

How does wanting to understand the mechanics of love, it's evolutionary history and the biochemistry that makes us feel that emotion require that my wife provide objective proof of her love for me?

I didn't mean to say that it does. [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:32 AM

Re: Try to convert AIs?

I'd like to think I've been asking the question wrong this whole time, or that there's some deliberate attempt at avoiding the point I've been trying to make, but I don't think so.

To some there seems to be a very bright line between the [more]

Sun Feb 8

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:32 AM

Re: Objective Deliciousness

I find it odd that something that is surely so impossible seems more real to you than the things and stuff that are are actually here.

A nice distillation, but I'd argue that love is here, too.

And if I'm blind, but loving; [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:17 AM

Re: Try to convert AIs?

From Wiki:

1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3.
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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:12 AM

Re: Objective Deliciousness

The answer you gave is a common one, but it defeats itself. It is contradictory. It says that there is no absolute morality, and that it changes with culture/society and time.

For argument's sake, let's say I'm right and the absolute [more]

Sat Feb 7

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:50 AM

Re: Try to convert AIs?

I'd prefer that humans followed Asimov's laws. It's been really ugly for too long.

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:45 AM

Re: Objective Deliciousness

As originally created, all life forms acknowledge and are positively affected by love. Even plants. I'm old enough to remember the "Pet rock" craze, but never thought mine responded much.

Why not at all in others? By the power of [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:39 AM

Re: Objective Deliciousness

Absolute morality is revealed in the Bible. As with all things, we find what we seek.

Regarding the rules for slavery (a subset of rules, there are many more that seem to not reflect absolute morality of which you are aware) you're watching [more]

Tue Feb 3

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 4:44 PM

Re: Objective Deliciousness

I have a reasonable legacy of historical success to rest my arguments on.

There's a similar legacy for the success of the version or color of morality that transcends cooperation. But I would expect that success, given that [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 11:33 AM

Re: Objective Deliciousness

...the taboo is clearly stronger within our own group.

"Who is my neighbor?" someone once asked when attempting to define morality.

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 11:27 AM

Re: Objective Deliciousness

Sorry, I don't believe that 'social rules are the divine inspiration of a single human'. Apologies if that's what I've suggested. I cannot identify a single human who imagined / brought new and unique social rules.

I recognize the shared [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 8:16 AM

Re: Objective Deliciousness

Show me a more not created by man.

Show me the man who created the more. The man who originally imagined the nidus of morality that spawned multiple attempts at clarification:

'no human above another'
'all men are [more]

Sun Jan 18

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 5:28 PM

Re: interesting graphic

mountains of verbosity...

Apologies for adding to it. I suppose I was foolish to think that I could express something new and different.

Sat Jan 17

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 4:05 PM

Re: interesting graphic

As much as our verbal language is beautiful in it's inexactness, so too is our language of math with its ability to distill away vagueness.


As much as our verbal language is beautiful in it's inexactness, so, too is it harmful by [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 9:34 AM

Re: interesting graphic

Whether we admit it or not, we all struggle with communicating reality. We all struggle to be understood. The best communication occurs between people who have a long history together. This shared history can sometimes result in the unique and [more]

Fri Jan 2

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 1:06 PM

Re: afterlife

We went for drugs for the poodle. Gave her a dose, and she seemed more anxious and was behaving oddly. Looked up the drug and it's the doggie equivalent of Thorazine, an antipsychotic! She'd probably have done better with no drugs. Except for her [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 12:54 PM

Re: afterlife

Thanks. It was a fun trip. Colder in CA than I expected, but being with family was great!

Sorry to sound self-congratulatory / specie-centric...

Happy New Year.

Sun Dec 21

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 9:55 AM

Re: afterlife

It's not the one I describe, it's the one the Bible describes

I recognize that anything I say in response to this post will likely be dismissed with "what's the point in discussing a mythological batch of documents?" but [more]

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1Apocalypse replied to the The Theist/Atheist Dialogs board. 9:44 AM

Re: afterlife

The universe, created or not, is a cruel, uncaring, and arbitrary place for life.

Surely you can appreciate my perspective that we are anomalous.

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